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Information on expats opening offshore accounts to be shared with HMRC

Transparency rules aimed at clamping down on tax evasion are now in force, meaning more information will be shared with the UK tax authorities

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By Charlotte Beugge

10:42AM BST 08 Jul 2014
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Expat savers who remain resident in the UK for tax purposes now have to provide more information when they open offshore bank accounts – to be shared with Her Majesty's Revenue & Customs.

It comes after the US implementation of the Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act (Fatca) which means that American citizens with investments outside the country must report them to the US tax authorities, while foreign financial institutions must disclose information on their US customers or pay a tax penalty.

The UK signed its agreement with the US in 2012 and in the 2013 Budget George Osborne, the Chancellor, announced that there would be an automatic exchange of information between the Crown Dependencies of Jersey, Guernsey and the Isle of Man and HM Revenue & Customs. This is known as the UK Fatca because it is based on the US model.

The measures aim to achieve greater financial transparency and clamp down on tax evasion. However, unlike US citizens who are liable for US tax on their worldwide income, wherever they reside, British expatriates are largely exempt from UK tax on income earned outside the UK.

Santander Private Banking, the Jersey-based subsidiary of Santander UK (santanderpb.je), said the effect of the UK and the US Fatca means that anyone opening an account will now have to comply with the new rules. This also includes existing clients who add a new party to their existing account or who open a joint account.

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The bank said the agreement with the UK “will have a similar effect (to the US Fatca) and will require us to report certain information on clients who are resident in the UK for tax purposes to the Jersey Tax authority who will pass the information to HMRC”.
Its website states: “The effect of both international agreements is that for new accounts opened after July 1 2014 we will be asking all our clients for additional information to enable us to verify their country of tax residence”.
The rules affect new Santander Private Banking clients, and existing ones who add a party to their account or open a new joint account.
Nationwide International (nationwideinternational.com), which is based in the Isle of Man, said the new UK Fatca rules mean that anyone opening a new account will have to provide details of their citizenship and where they are resident for tax purposes.
UK tax residents will have to provide their National Insurance number and those who are a resident for tax purposes of the US or an EU member country must provide their tax identification number.
 
As we have warned members before, unless the investment is set up in trust, the costs incurred in obtaining the proceeds from an offshore investment are prohibitive.

We at Thai Widows have spent over £4,500 to obtain the proceeds for a deceased clients estate from Jersey. Probate is necessary, and beware also, even upon death of the investor, early surrender charges were applied which in this particular case were £2,500.

Cheaper in the long run to pay tax on the interest and have your money in your home country.
 
We have had this discussion before but I will also say it is easier said than done. I have had an offshore bank account for the past 28 years. I no longer live in the UK and I do not have a UK address that I can use.

I need a UK based bank, and an offshore account is just fine, to facilitate the payment of a couple of pensions of mine. I know for certain that HM Paymaster will not pay my Armed Forces Pension to Thailand. I also understand that the other private pension is better off being paid to my offshore account. Yes, the Government State pension could be paid direct to Thailand.

In order to close my offshore account I would first need an on shore account. My question, how do I get an onshore UK bank account? Without tangible proof of residence I do not think this is possible. Would Lloyds TSB Offshore sanction and sponsor the opening of an on shore account? Any ideas?
 
We have had this discussion before but I will also say it is easier said than done. I have had an offshore bank account for the past 28 years. I no longer live in the UK and I do not have a UK address that I can use.

I need a UK based bank, and an offshore account is just fine, to facilitate the payment of a couple of pensions of mine. I know for certain that HM Paymaster will not pay my Armed Forces Pension to Thailand. I also understand that the other private pension is better off being paid to my offshore account. Yes, the Government State pension could be paid direct to Thailand.

In order to close my offshore account I would first need an on shore account. My question, how do I get an onshore UK bank account? Without tangible proof of residence I do not think this is possible. Would Lloyds TSB Offshore sanction and sponsor the opening of an on shore account? Any ideas?

I believe you have to be present at the bank in person to sign the appropriate forms - this on top of having suitable residence with utility bills etc.

In your case Nomad, if it is just an offshore bank account, then budget £2000 for your wife to access the funds after death with probate. If it is an investment bond, then the cost will likely be double that!
 
I thought this had been common practice for years. HMRC have been peering into peoples foreign bank accounts for quite some time now.
 
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