Retard Extension

BigA said:
My latest experience at Surin Immigration 15 Feb 2017 for 'O' visa extension based on retirement.
This is not a rant
To give you a picture, I should say I'm a single male living in a rented apartment and have a Thai girlfriend with whom I do not live, but I invited her just in case I needed some interpretation on the spot. She had instructions to sit at the back as I would handle it
1pm on arrival, dressed reasonably as befits a Government Office and duly smiling to everyone. Only one customer and straight to the lady who checked my papers and immediately to a chair to be dealt with by Mother Demdike. You may not be familiar with the term if you are not from the UK or Lancashire in particular. Google it.
The officer immediately called for my 'interpreter' and proceeded to discuss everything and presumably anything with her during which time I repeatedly asked (nicely) if she could deal with me directly please as it was in fact my application. Ignored. My proof of finances in the bank were not in order. I must say I am grateful for you guys who have provided info recently as to the need for the bank letter to be on the same day as the application. In the morning I had done this for my Fixed Term Deposit account showing 800k which does not have an entry as of today. Completely by coincidence, it did show yesterdays entry with the end of term interest paid in and the terms for the following period of twelve months. No good. I explained I do not take money out (no debit card) as that defeats the object and I do not put in as there is no benefit. Not interested - must got to the bank and do as she said. I flourished my up to date Savings Account book (and older books) for day to day transactions over the last 12 years with photocopies of the last 12 months. Her gruff superior came over - let's call him Adolph, and I tried to explain via my 'interpreter' that this is how banking works. I asked if they could please check with a higher power as this methodology had been perfectly acceptable for x years. She went to see the 'top man' during which time I learned that today there was no staff that spoke English due to sickness/shortage or whatever. Back in 5 mins and grudgingly said 'It'll do'. Fantastic I thought.
Next the residence info no good as I had no contract. I have a 'contract' in as much as I had today's letter from the owner stating I have resided there since xxxx well over 3 years ago and pay on a month by month basis at x ThB/month (receipts proffered) plus signed copies of house book and ID all good enough for the last 3 visits to SI. The conversation went..... No good - not legal. Who's not legal? The apartment owners. Not my problem - owner's problem. You must have a contract. They not give me one. They must issue a contract. Their business - you tell tell owners. At this point my interpreter whispered - you must get a contract 'or else'. I said I'll deal with it. She was shown a contract from another farang to photo to assist my landlord. So everything satisfactory and my application approved at speed, together with re-entry permit and out of there in just over an hour which was excellent, but feeling drained and not impressed with their surly attitude. Job done - out for a few beers tonight to celebrate.
The following day (16th) my girlfriend came round and said I must get a contract. WTF. I said it may be nice - if you wish to go to the owners who are good friends and help them to get legal so they don't fall foul of the law and end up paying a fine. OK. 2 hours later later she waved a contract (in Thai) for me to sign. WTF. Conversation: It's got 6 months and I'm moving out in 2 months or so cos we're getting married and going to live in your house. SI say got to be 6 or 12 month contract. WTF. I've got my extension and job done. No - you got to take the contract to Immigration (or maybe photo SMS to Mother Demdike will do). Who said? They did ..........yesterday. It's lunchtime by now and she got a terse SMS from SI demanding the contract. WTF. Only now do I get the full story ........that if you don't do today SI will visit you, take your passport and cancel the extension. WTF!!! OK - let me sign it and do what you have to do. First got to get it authenticated, accompanied by the landlord. WTF. Who by? Local Ampur Estates Department. WTF. OK. An hour later the document arrived with lots of official stuck on stamps and signatures and rubber stamps. Very impressive and it was photoed and sent to SI who sent SMS message back all OK.
Phew. Sorry long story but sent for your info
It may sound like a rant, but it's not. I jump through all the hoops willingly as I'm a guest in a foreign country. I have sufficient money to have a great life here when it would not be so in the UK. I keep legal and don't have the need to fake my address or buy under the counter extensions/driving licenses/degrees or work illegally et.al. like lots of folk all over Thailand. Right now I feel almost persecuted in this country by Immigration (maybe when I get my name in a house book it will help). Not so in daily life as I know personally and socialize on occasion and am accepted as friends by many Thai people in the area courtesy of my girlfriends business and social connections. I know that's no big deal but do contribute and fit into the local scene the best I can. It's just as it seems more difficult every year and for that reason I'm continuing with my 12 month Cambodia Ordinary Visa (some say business visa) as a Plan B
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You could have written......I have a few mini problems when doing my Retirement Extension on the 15th . I didn't updated my Bankbook on the day and I didn't have a Rental Contract for my Apartment ,
I complied with both requests and now everything is fine.

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I'm glad it all worked out in the end for you BigA :cool:

For others that are single and living in an Apartment ( rented Housing ) I believe you will need photocopies and originals of the following at SI for an Retirement Extension

1. Passport Home Page

2. Visa Pages

3. Apartment owners Tabian Ban

4. Apartment owners ID card.

5. Rental Agreement

6. Proof of Income/Savings (Bank book)

7. Letter from Bank

8. Passport photos

9. TM6

1o. Hand drawn Street Plan ( sometimes asked for , so worth doing )

Completed TM7 and the 1900 Baht Fee.
 
Very fine narrative, Big A.
It read almost like a script as to what one will encounter at Surin Immigration regarding documenting proof of monies in bank seasoned for 90 days and proof of an apartment rental as residence to their satisfaction.
Now you'll be ready for next year (though the rules of compliance are subject to change. ;) )
 
Moo Ban said:
You could have written......I have a few mini problems when doing my Retirement Extension on the 15th . I didn't updated my Bankbook on the day and I didn't have a Rental Contract for my Apartment ,
I complied with both requests and now everything is fine.

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I'm glad it all worked out in the end for you BigA :cool:

For others that are single and living in an Apartment ( rented Housing ) I believe you will need photocopies and originals of the following at SI for an Retirement Extension

1. Passport Home Page

2. Visa Pages

3. Apartment owners Tabian Ban

4. Apartment owners ID card.

5. Rental Agreement

6. Proof of Income/Savings (Bank book)

7. Letter from Bank

8. Passport photos

9. TM6

1o. Hand drawn Street Plan ( sometimes asked for , so worth doing )

Completed TM7 and the 1900 Baht Fee.
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You are right Moo Ban. However my purpose was to highlight a couple of the seemingly new requirements as given to me on that date
Without in any way decrying your efforts to assist future applicants, your list is not entirely comprehensive - but who knows which officer will ask for what on any given date? i.e.
3 Original not requested
4 ditto
5 A 'Contract' and not an agreement was specifically requested
6 Original Bank book with proof of bank transaction required for day of application. Plus photocopy
7 Letter required same day

Surprisingly there was no request to go over the road for a complete set of copies, nor map request or home visit wanted. Maybe needed for other applicants
My request for re-entry permit was painless
 
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I think all bases are covered now for single people living in an Apartment ( rented Housing ) .....until another Jobsworth gets sent to run SI :)
 
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Prakhonchai Nick said:
Simple solution...................Get married. :)
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nomad97 said:
After all, if you get married and take a wife, squaring up is daily occurrence, every day of the year.
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It's does help if have a pair of bollocks and a wife thats know's her place.......life can be so much simpler .:)

Unless you're into that kind of thing of course ...SHMBO ;)

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Moo Ban said:
It's does help if have a pair of bollocks and a wife thats know's her place.......life can be so much simpler .:)

Unless you're into that kind of thing of course ...SHMBO ;)

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SHMBO, funny way of spelling 'Who' but, then again, who am I to question a young lady like that? "Yes mistress, anything you say, mistress."
 
Moo Ban said:
It's does help if have a pair of bollocks and a wife thats know's her place.......life can be so much simpler .:)

Unless you're into that kind of thing of course ...SHMBO ;)

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Happily, I do have a wife who knows her place, and life is fairly simple as a consequence. I'm also happy to report that she doesn't have (and never has had!) a pair of bollocks...
 
Coffee said:
I just figured 'She/He ;;girl;;Must Be Obeyed',
ass-sumin' that Moo might walk on the wild side every so often. :screamcat: > :cool:
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It always make me smile when guys on forums like to joke/tease other guy's about the possibility that they might have homosexual tendencies and have/do have sexy with ladyboys :)
I wonder if on Gay forums the members do the same thing, but joke about the other person being straight or having sex with someone of the opposite sex ?? ;;what;;......well Coffee...Do they :D
 
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